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By: jerrybrice

jerrybrice — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:10:53 +0000

I think your test Neffs makes a lot of good ”common” sense, which is not always common.
I understand what Michael is getting at here,by die-empowering the word,..both words possibly, and a lot of it has to do with time and place.

Both words,”F”and ‘N” are going through their evolution,and one day both words may be meaningless, and that would be great,..but their evolution can take a turn for the worst,much like the original meaning of a Swatiska…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
…the Swatika originally had a good spiritual mening in the Hindu religion, and is widely used as a decoration today all throughout India,where the meaning still is religous.
Any such usage in the western world would immediatley be deemed as anti-semetic…so the Hindus here refrainfrom using the Swatiska.

The blood associated with the slur’s is what makes them poisonous, and one must be wary of the interpretation of the context.
Do we really want the burden of explanation every time we make an offhand remark…

By: Neffs

Neffs — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:16:43 +0000

The test is pure and simply this: it’s a hate word if it’s uttered anywhere near the utteree getting beaten or killed. Nobody to my knowledge ever got beaten or killed after being called a honky. Or a breeder. The body count for the other two words is well established.

By: Michael Kraemer

Michael Kraemer — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:49:07 +0000

I looked at this comment last night and slept on it. In a perfect world, your right, lets check this at the door. But think about the differences between two slurs – the N word and the F word. I would think being called the N word is worse. But I believe it is so because of the highly cautious usage of it. Since it is so unspoken, to throw it out there is a shocking assault. So maybe accepting “Fag” as a general term, it kills the power.

I am still shocked that there was a movement against prop 8. Especially that it was backed by people always chanting “don’t let government meddle in personal affairs”. But the worst part is that it was not just an unhappy indifference, but a highly organized machine to keep people from getting these rights: I’m sure with that goofy “I’m Saved” smile.

What I find really great about the prop 8, even though it failed, is that a clear minority, 10% of the population, is gay but nearly 50% of people supported giving them full rights.

By: jerrybrice

jerrybrice — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:28:08 +0000

It’s like where do people get the motivation to meddle in other grown peoples affairs…
Unfortunetly, I understand the mentality that is out there spending time to defeat same sex marriage,I am just amazed that a church organization would actually spend time and money organizing against it.

I hate to have to vote on someone eles’s life decisions that will not affect me at all.I just want to make sur that the divorce laws and all that are applied equally, and let it go at that.
The church probably would stand to make money from holding more weddings, so they may want to re-think all of their efforts, it’s way negative, and a lot like the civil rights movement.

As for the transformation of the word faggot, I think it should be avoided especially if you can use another term, because it only opens the door for an unnecessary misunderstanding, that’s what I think.
Just say a-hole if that’s what you mean, and leave the sex and racial slurs out of all the angry rants…

By: Michael Kraemer

Michael Kraemer — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:35:11 +0000

There is a very strong parallel between gay marriage and interracial in that the type of straw man arguments still exist.
1. Marriage as a sacrament
2. It will undermine the institution
3. What do we tell our kids?
3. This type of marriage is unnatural
4. Destroy the culture of marriage.
5. Destroying family unit.
6. History – marriage has always been between …

Across from the camera shop Harvey Milk owned in the Castro, there is a boutique store called Antique X. I had a long conversation with the owner one day where I said that I think gay marriage should be legalized, but I can understand where the opposition is coming from.

Anyway as we talked, and he told me about himself and his partner being assaulted by police in the 1960′s, told me about how hatred has impacted his life personally – the most peaceful and gentle person tearing up at the constant and very current oppression. Do you ever really think of what it is like to be hated for who you are for your entire life – the fallout of family and neighbors, old friends turning against you, rife discrimination…

It was one of those singular moments which helped me think of this not as an abstract political debate, but one that impacts millions in a very deep way.

I am not apologetic about utterly dismissing these claims against gay marriage. I refuse to simply “understand” where hateful minds develop these arguments, they are wholly wrong. The cycle continues if people do not refute these ludicrous claims.

By: S.C. Denney

S.C. Denney — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:59:52 +0000

It’s a twist of irony when the people who consider homosexuals less-than-humans and “better off dead” act more like faggots than the… well, you get.

But hey! The righteous know the voice of the Lord.

I wonder what the generations to come will think of these times? I tend to think the will see times like these much like we see the times of segregation and Jim Crow. The parallels are pretty stark. But right now it’s part of the grand liberal-scheme. God-damn those liberals and progressives!