Comments on: Al Franken: S.2736 – Justice for Survivors of Sexual Assault Act of 2009

By: Neffs

Neffs — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:37:08 +0000

He sounds like the disgruntled spammer from the Daily Musto. I think it’s just that subtype.

Problem is, I bet a lot of right-wing types kind of agree whether they say it or not with him.

By: Michael Kraemer

Michael Kraemer — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:03:58 +0000

While I do not fully agree with the ban of J, I respect the editorial decision to omit his comments. While transparency, freedom of speech, and idealogical openness all reinforce the need to visibly confront an intellectually adversary. Further, I believe that hateful commentary visible to all will undermine its insidious objective.

J does not advocate from a mere adversarial fringe, but one more representative of idealogical lunacy – the ravings of an idiot at odds with the promotion of intellectual blogging.

We should entertain dissent as far as logically permissible and allow considerable latitude. Yet, a key factor here is that we operate on the web. Myself and the editors of Political Cartel put our integrity at stake with every post and act thoughtfully.

I currently respect and understand the decision to “censor” J. In thinking of a circumstance for which I would be compelled to advocate his return… One such instance may be shedding his anonymity and expressing himself as a reasonable person in a public setting.

If this logic assuages the staff, it is my recommendation to use this comment as a template should another need arise. Thoughts?

By: D. M. Manes

D. M. Manes — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:43 +0000

Goodbye, J

By: D. M. Manes

D. M. Manes — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:04:59 +0000

Hey J, you want real world? Put your name and your face alongside your public statements.

Try going to any physical location owned by a corporation and shouting personal attacks and racist slurs. See what happens. Real world: they will kick your ass out.

By: Heather McIntosh

Heather McIntosh — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:35 +0000

There is a difference between a “heated exchange” and blatant racism with other offensive epithets sprinkled in. Go away.

By: J

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:55:38 +0000

Bingo! Why the censoring impulse. Are you so thin skinned. These complaints sound like kiddos who havent heard someone say an obscenity. If you cant take a heated exchange, well then, this world is going to provide you with a new title, victim. Is this what they teach kids now in public schools. “I dont like what I’ve heard, I’m offended.” Real world kid–is the word Kid still acceptable? Counsel, anyone? Im offended. Does that matter? Help!

By: D. M. Manes

D. M. Manes — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:00:41 +0000

Nobody can. At this point, I’m not even sure if he is for real or if he is really a liberal having fun satirizing the most obnoxious and extreme parts of the far right wing.

Sometimes it’s hard to tell.
http://politicalcartel.org/2009/11/03/poes-law-fundamentalism-and-parody/

By: justthisgirl

justthisgirl — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:23:22 +0000

I agree with both the article (very well done) and with Neffs.

And I hesitate to type this since it’s probably just proof of my own stupidity, but I can’t even tell what J is talking about.

By: J

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:15:57 +0000

Enough with the mickey mouse crap. Peoples actions are what we are talking about. This touchy feely, “soft touch” approach is in existence now. Murdering children and no death penalty. 12 and 13 year old boys klll like adults and not even life sentences. Rapists out in 10 or 15 years? And you think we need a softer approach? What would you add: more open work release? Bring your rapist to work week? When and where has this “it takes a village” crap ever worked. Why is there this assumption that a democratic society should have so few in jail. High incarceration can only mean oppression? We all know who is disproportionately representin in prison. Is that your real mission. A high interest in reforming persons? What is that “high interest“? For Goodness sake? For recognitions sake?

You are part of the tribe that has raped the culture of the “50s” America. Now you think it is my responsibility to help this sick and perverse culture get on its feet? Ever consider that this culture is one of earned misery. You chose perverse behaviour, you live with certain consequences. No impulse control, prison will take care of that. If that isnt incentive enough, you wont ever learn. What interests me is when those who wanted no part in the bizarre are forced to have their loved ones see it and or subsidise it. Like the Ammanns of your neck of the woods, why not just leave those who don’t subscribe to your vision the hell alone. We want no part in your worship of everything but, and your preference for the perverse. Now lets hear your persuasive argument for forced integration.

By: Michael Kraemer

Michael Kraemer — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:21:37 +0000

Life is isn’t monotone. There are different levels and aggravations for types of sexual assault. We must find strength to view both victim and criminal as people. While victims deserve the utmost attention and consideration, the offender too must be treated fairly. Unfortunately our system is in such a state of neglect and overpopulation that rehabilitation never occurs… leading to a perpetual cycle of violence. As a society I would think that there is a high interest in reforming prisons – or maybe thats too far removed for politicians seeking votes? It sounds better to get tough on crime when actually the soft touch may be far more effectual.